179- Detoxing and Natural Ways to Protect Your Genes with Spencer Feldman

[00:00:15] Bryan Carroll: detoxing. It's something your body is designed to do naturally and all of the time. However, we have never been as inundated with toxins and environmental exposure. As we have been in the last hundred plus years.

[00:00:29] So at this point, is our body able to detox efficiently or does it need a lot of extra stuff? That's what we'll be talking about in this episode with Spencer Feldman, what's up everyone. I'm Bryan Carroll and I'm here to help people move more, eat well and be adventurous. And Spencer Feldman came onto the show to basically give us a masterclass on how the body detoxes and some of the common toxins that we are struggling.

[00:00:55] Removing from the system. So we'll be covering different ways to get these toxins out of the body and how to support your body appropriately so that it can detox everything that it needs to detox. Now we get pretty deep with this topic. So if you have the time, you might want to sit down, get out a pen and paper and take some notes.

[00:01:15] As we go through this topic in Spencer's the founder of remedy link, where for the last 20 years, he has been formulating and manufacturing, detoxification products for doctors and their patients. His company specializes in helping support your body's natural responses to heavy metal toxic. Now, before we dive into this episode, if you haven't found an electrolyte that you like, and you want to make sure that you're getting appropriate electrolytes into your system, to be able to regulate how your muscles are functioning and how your body stores and uses fluids in the system has.

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[00:02:29] Let's dive into my conversation with Spencer. Thank you, Spencer, for coming on to the. 

[00:02:35] Spencer Feldman: Thanks for having me, Bryan, 

[00:02:36] Bryan Carroll: of course. And I'm excited to chat with you about the detoxification pathways in the body and what we can do to optimize that. But before we dive into that, let's learn a little bit more about your background and what got you interested in detoxing in the.

[00:02:49] Spencer Feldman: Well, let's see when I was in college I got, I think there was a outbreak or at least one person got mumps or measles or something. And so they decide to vaccinate everybody prophylactically and I lined up, you know good citizen and, you know, follow the, the, the advice or the experts. And pretty soon thereafter, my hands started shaking so bad that I couldn't drink.

[00:03:13] Because it would shake out of my right out of my spoon. So, you know, I went to the local doc, my doctor, and I said, Hey, what's going on with my hand shaking? And they're like, well, you know, we'll give you a drug. I'm like, okay, but why are my hands shaking? Like, we'll take this drug. I'm like, no, no, I, my hands are shaking because I have a deficiency, this drug something's up, what is it?

[00:03:30] And they're like, Hey, your time is up. I got, you know, you get five minutes and I got a hundred other clients to see. Well, there goes my career as a surgeon. Right. Cause my hands are shaking too much. So I started trying to figure out, you know, what was going on and got into natural medicine, started studying German, biological medicine, got a microscope.

[00:03:49] And then I found that I had an affinity for doing research and formulation and what became of interest to me was the toxins that we were being exposed to, you know, I mean, We have a an amazing technological heritage both with the chemicals that have been used in industry and pharmaceutical interventions, but and we have by and large done some amazing things.

[00:04:11] You know, we can grow enormous amounts of food with manipulations of fertilizers and pesticides that we could not grow. Side effects. You know, now there's glyphosate in the food. You know, we can stop lots of progressive infections that would kill people and killed many people. With antibiotics and things, side effect.

[00:04:31] Now we have an enormous amount of chronic disease. So I was trying to understand, you know, what the dark side of our biochemical sophistication was, and you know, what toxins were causing problems and how we might get rid of them. And so what I've been doing for the last 2025 years is trying to understand the dark side of our technological capacity in terms of what it's done to our.

[00:04:58] And how we can remove some of the toxic, you know, what the toxins are causing, how we can remove the, how we can balance the body and to do it in a way that there's patient compliance. So for instance, if the way to do it is with an IV and you don't have access to a physician who runs IDs, or you don't want to learn on your own arm.

[00:05:17] And I don't recommend you do. I I've done that. It's a bloody mess. Right? I don't know how to, I know how to do IVs in my arm. Now. It was a mess. You know, how would you do this at home? You know, or with things that are easy to do. And so that's what I've been doing for the last 20, 25 years. 

[00:05:35] Bryan Carroll: Isn't it interesting how this is happening time and time again, there's a problem.

[00:05:40] We come up with a solution that creates a new problem, and then we have to figure out a new solution and it's just a never ending. 

[00:05:47] Spencer Feldman: Yeah, one step back, two steps forward, you know, it's, it's par for the course, you know, our bodies have an innate ability to duty docs, right? We can detoxify things. So we evolved the way that like arsenic and well water, how, you know, in terms of metals and like snake and spider bites and poisons mushrooms in terms of chemicals.

[00:06:07] So we have a date of capacity to get rid of metals and chemicals. The issue, as I see it is we are exposed both in number and. Type or quantity types or variety far more of these toxins than we were ever evolved to deal with. And some of them are things that they're just that our body really just has no experience, no, no database to go back to.

[00:06:30] Right. You know, if we get bit by one type of poisonous insect, you know, even though your body may not have seen that one. It seems something like it. So there's something in the DNA that says, oh, okay. I know how to deal with this, but there's chemicals now that we're exposed to, oh, is it six, 7 million at latest count that our bodies have no, no way to understand, you know, no, no details, no playbook on how to deal with.

[00:06:55] So now, you know, one of the arguments is, well, look, all the toxins you're exposed to these are all tested to be shown, not to cause cancer or birth defects or. So w why are you worried and well, okay. You know, cause it's such small amounts. And I said, well, you know that that's true. Although some do slip through the cracks because of political politics and money, like a smart, I mean, that should never have made it into the.

[00:07:22] There's another day, but okay. Grant and most of these things are very, very low toxins. The issue is they were never tested for two things. One, they were never tested for long-term exposure, right. They're just saying, Hey, we tested it on a bounce for, for two months. Nothing happened, but what happens for 20 years?

[00:07:37] You know, what about that thing? That's in your toothpaste or shampoo or your food preservative that's you're exposed to for 20 years? What does that do? So the long-term aspects have never been studied. And then the other thing is the synergistic aspect hasn't been studied. So yes, you may only be getting something that is only one part that is a thousand times lower than a toxic dose.

[00:07:58] But when you get 10,000 things, like. And they all add up together and multiply together because they, they have a synergistic effect that can get people sick. And that's going to take an AI program to S to sort out because there's so many variables. And so we are the longest running experiments in human history and we're, we're seeing it play out in our health.

[00:08:20] So, you know, What do you do? And so what I'd like to talk about is, you know, the different classes of toxins, and I want to share with your audience some of the lessons I've learned, the things that work, the things that don't, the things that are actually damaging when we try to do them. Cause some talk detoxes are actually terrible for you.

[00:08:38] So let's go through the classes of water toxins. I think it's a good place to start. Perfect. So you have water soluble toxins and beyond the damage they cause while they're in their body, you're going to urinate them out by and large. And then that's the end of it. Now some of them will shift in the body and we'll combine, but if they're water soluble and you pee them out, it's not a detox problem.

[00:09:03] It's a repair issue. Okay. And then you get to the fat-soluble talk. And then there's toxic metals and toxic crystallizations. Those three are the ones that I, you know, we really want to address. So let's start with how about the water soluble toxins? Yes, it means you have to drink water. And most of us don't drink enough water and that's because tap water is chlorinated and has the wrong surface electrical charge.

[00:09:30] And we're vitamin and mineral soluble, deficient, deficient, and soluble, vitamins, and minerals and electrolytes. So drinking water, it makes us feel tired. So you know, if you're not drinking enough water, most people aren't get a good clean source of water, right? That's not chlorinated. Add a little bit of lemon and some electrolytes, and you'll find you actually enjoy drinking.

[00:09:48] So that's just a little hack for that. Okay. So fat-soluble toxins. You can't just pee them out because they end up going into the fat of the body and all of our memories are fats and the nerves and so forth. So the cellular membranes. So if you, in order to get the fat-soluble toxins out, you have to make them water-soluble first.

[00:10:07] And, you know, we have experience with that. It's called soap or detergent. So, you know, as an example, if you have a dish soap with a bunch of. You know, grease from you know, to meet you cooked. And you dip that in cold water. It's not coming off to a degree if you dip it in hot water, because it'll go from fat oil and oil is liquid and they can wash it off, but still that's not, it's not going to come off.

[00:10:29] What you really want to do is you want to mix it with something like soap that will combine with the fat and allow it to become water-soluble. That's what soap is. It's something that changes a fat-soluble to water-soluble. Detox in many ways is finding the appropriate soap for the fat-soluble toxin you've got in you.

[00:10:50] And I think that's a good way to, to understand it. And so let me tell you the story of one of one of the first classic detoxes that we, you know, we know about. And so it's world war one German field hospital. And in those days it was thought that before you did surgery on, on. You gave them a colonic or an enema, sorry to reduce the bacterial load in their gut.

[00:11:12] And it also makes it easier to move the intestines around if you have to get in there and move organs around because there's VCs isn't in there. So they would flush the gut out and then they would do their surgery. And you know, the nurse comes to the doctor and says, doctor, we are out of a warm water.

[00:11:28] We can't do anymore. Enemas to clean out the bottles and the doctor looks around and goes, use the coffee pot over there. I'm Germans are like that. They're very practical people. That's why they make some of the best of medicine, you know? So she does. And what they noticed is that that soldier a healed with less pain and faster and all the other soldiers.

[00:11:47] And here's the other great thing about German doctors. They're very observant. So that's where coffee enemas came. They said, Hey, there's something about the coffee and the enema that speeded. And doing it more often, they found out it was great for detox. So let's talk about why that happens. There's three phases of detox, phase one, phase two and phase three.

[00:12:07] So let's go through the phase. One is where the enzymes called the cytochrome P four 50 enzymes, add oxygen to her fats, a fat soluble toxin to temporarily make it more reactive. That's phase one phase two is where conjugator is like Lutheran or methyl donors or sulfates or glue. Acid or a seal groups are attached to that oxygen.

[00:12:26] That's phase two and phase three is now it leaves the body either through the gallbladder or out there through the gallbladder, which would be theses or out the urine. Okay. Now some people get sick on a coffee enema. First of all, a lot of people don't get the results they could and sub up and get sick.

[00:12:42] So why is that? So phase one temporarily makes the toxin more reactive. It has to do it in order for the conjugate to get on, but if you don't have enough. Conjugate for that particular toxin. You now have this more toxic, more react. Poison in your body. And PR person gets sicker. And this is the, this is what explains multiple chemical sensitivities.

[00:13:04] Five people get in an elevator with someone who's got too much cologne. You know, most of them are like, oh, that just smells bad. And one person gets sick as a dog because that person can't, they go to phase one, they can't, they oxidized or put an oxygen on that cologne, toxin. That's now in their blood.

[00:13:21] But they can't get to phase two because they lacked the conjugates. And so now that more toxic thing is bouncing around, making them really ill and everyone else was wondering why this person's freaking out. Cause they're fine. It's because they have the conjugates and the other person does them. And this is one of the detox chops I, I was referring to is if you get somebody who's faced with.

[00:13:41] Who has no phase two and you just stimulate phase one, boy, they're just going to be sick as a dog because you're going to make them worse. So you know, what w well, you know, one of the inventions I did is I came up with a suppository full of coffee, organic coffee, and congregators so the, the benefit is one, it's a suppository rather than, you know, 30 minutes laying on your side and the bathtub doing their cough.

[00:14:04] So it's a lot easier. And two, we give the conjugates at the same time, so we don't crash them one on phase two. So and you know, it's like, this is, this is one of the things that the LendUp happened into clients, right? They'll they'll get they'll get a bad, they'll get a phase one detox from a well-meaning practitioner who doesn't understand phase two, they'll get sicker and the client and the doctor will say, oh, it's a detox reaction.

[00:14:28] And so they do more of it and they get sicker and the doctor says, keep going. And they eventually can't go anymore. So they cause they're sick. And so they feeling like they failed somehow. No, they didn't fail. The practitioner. Didn't understand the full nature of the detox. And that's why we get such excellent results with multiple chemical sensitivity, because it's a phase one and phase two issue.

[00:14:50] Have you ever done a coffee enema? Yeah. What was your experience? 

[00:14:55] Bryan Carroll: You know, I w cause I hear all this great stuff about him. I never really got really energized or anything. Like I would have expected, I didn't feel bad. But I didn't feel energized. A lot of stuff flushed out of me, which I was 

[00:15:08] Spencer Feldman: kind of surprised by.

[00:15:09] So either you didn't have those toxins in you, which would be great, right? Or you're a little low on phase. You were a little low on phase two and you just knew really never got you had enough phase two, not to get sick from stimulating phase one, but not enough to really get the benefit you could have.

[00:15:24] So we make a product called Xena Plex and that's got the phase two conjugates and the coffee and, you know that's a great way to, to, to deal with chemicals. It will also take out metals, but I don't want to waste those things are metals. I'd rather go after metals directly. So let's talk about the toxic metals.

[00:15:41] That's another class of toxins. Now, some people call them heavy metals, which means they have a density greater than north specific gravity, greater than. But that's not really accurate because there are light metals that are toxic, like aluminum, and then there's heavy metals that are good for you, like zinc and iron.

[00:15:55] So let's call them toxic metals. And what happens is when they get inside the body, the body thinks there are things we need, especially if we're deficient in them. So, and then, then we absorbed them. So like lead looks like calcium. That's why it goes to the bones. Cademy looks like zinc, which is why it's an, a brain and the eyes, the.

[00:16:16] Mercury, it looks like selenium. So it goes to the thyroid aluminum, magnesium. It goes in the muscles and the brain. And so on now, toxic metals. One of the things they do is they get stuck on to do a lot of things. You can talk an hour just on the troubles of toxic metals costs. But one thing is that they get stuck at our cell membrane transporters, which are these little tunnels and revolving doors that bring nutrition in and bring waste products out of ourselves.

[00:16:42] And when the toxic metals get into the cell membrane it's because they look like the metals that are supposed to go through, but they'll have a slightly different size and charge and they get stuck there. So, you know, imagine it's you know, I imagine you're at an airport going through a revolving door or, or, you know or you know, TSA and you're trying to get through something and then you just get stuck there that you can imagine the chaos.

[00:17:03] Yeah, or another way to say it is it causes toxic metals cause the cells to become malnourished and toxic at the same time. Cause the nutrition can't go in, talk to them. Can't go out. Imagine somebody crazy glues your fridge shut and pour cement in your toilet. Right? No food and no way to go to the bathroom.

[00:17:18] It's not going to be a great place to live. So we need to find something that can bind to these toxic metals and pull them out of the transporters and make them sizeable so we can pay them. Yeah. And one of my favorites for this is EDTA. It's a key later ethylene diamine, Tetris, scenic acid. So an amine means protein Tetris for the seat of gas that has vinegar.

[00:17:39] So it's protein. For Vitec or groups you write lots of acids are key leaders, right? When you exercise and you make lactic acid, you're key leading your body when you drink lemon juice, when I'm mixing in all my drinks, your Akili and the like, you know, the citric acid is key lading. But different key leaders have different qualities and EDTA is a really fantastic.

[00:18:00] So EDTA and key leaders are normally given by IV because as a protein it would destroy, it would be destroyed by the digestive process. So again, we make it as, as pository not, you know, so the reason we make the first product is that a black, this is a pository is because one, the conjugator is glutathione.

[00:18:18] For instance, that will be the main one won't survive digestion. And two, we're trying to replicate the coffee enema, where we buy, we get into the liver through the. Portal veins. So it's a location for the EDTA. The reason we want to go by suppository is, you know, it's, it's easier than an Ivy. It's less invasive.

[00:18:35] And otherwise that ingredient won't serve our digestion. Now, there are definitely people that sell oral key leaders, but if they're only one to 2% absorbed, you know okay. It's just not necessarily the most. Best bang for the buck. However, if you're dealing with mercury, you can't do EDTA or the other classic, the DMPs or DMSA, and I wouldn't even necessarily do the color protocol with alpha-lipoic acid cause that'll drag it across the blood-brain barrier.

[00:18:59] We don't have time to go in America as a whole. That's a whole other thing. But if you think you have mercury toxicity, reach out to me on my website and I can walk you through that one. Have you ever done. 

[00:19:10] Bryan Carroll: Not IVQ elation. No, no, no. 

[00:19:13] Spencer Feldman: So there was an interesting study in Switzerland where they said, I think 20 Ivy sessions, something like that, they reduced cancer and heart attack by 90 and 86%.

[00:19:24] I don't remember which one went to which over the lifetime, which is huge. I mean, you know, if you think you can reduce cancer and heart attack risk by upwards of 90% of your lifetime. You know, considering those are the top two killers, depending on your age group. That's pretty amazing. But there's another thing that so the other thing, the last kind of toxin I wanted to talk about was I'm called toxic crystal is patients.

[00:19:47] It's not something that people normally think. People don't, people don't normally think of toxins as a as crystal, as a toxin. But if you think of the fact that many Kris many crystals are formed from toxins, They block the detox pathways, thus creating more toxic backlog. You can see that they play a role in detox.

[00:20:06] So there's something like 22 different substances in the body. We know that can crystallize in the body. And that's just the ones we know of. I'm sure this. But some common ones would be, say, gallstones and kidney stones and a soft tissue calcification. So women who get calcifications in the breast and men who get them in the prostate and, you know, in the skin and you know, all over the body and the arteries.

[00:20:27] So let's talk about gallstones first. So the liver produces bile to neutralize stomach acids. Cause otherwise we would burn our entire gut up because you know, the stomach has a mucus layer to protect us against the incredibly acidic stomach. The rest of the body doesn't have that protection. So it has to be neutralized on the way down.

[00:20:46] So the bile does that, it kills parasites. It stimulates peristalsis to digest fats. It feeds our microbiome. And the gallbladder is this little bag. It's sad. It's a sack that the bile goes in. Where it's stored and then release it, squirted into the intestines as a food Cubs by unfortunately for a lot of people, the bile and the gallbladder turns to sludge and then stones as they age.

[00:21:08] And if you look at people with an ultrasound, you can see all sorts of junk in their gallbladder. So what happens is these, these stones can cause taking a jammed up into the paint, into the duct, forcing vile to backflush into the pancreas, and now you get alkali burns in the pink. And the loss of blood sugar control.

[00:21:25] If the bile doesn't go through your constipation, other issues, sometimes you get people that'll alternate between diarrhea and constipation because their bile won't come out, won't come out and will come out that it just blasts out. Cause it just, just the pressure of it. And then it all flushes out at once.

[00:21:41] So there's a, you know, mine at managing your is, you know, it's an important thing. It's sort of like, you know, working in the oil, filter your car, you know, you just, once a year, you want to pay a little attention. And so there's an old school PA protocol to deal with gallstones. And it's called the liver gallbladder flush.

[00:21:57] Have you ever done one of those Bryan? I have, yes. We want to share your experience with that. 

[00:22:02] Bryan Carroll: Actually I felt really good. It was kind of weird cause I felt like leading up to it, I felt like I was having some sort of like gallbladder attack, which I've never experienced before. There was a lot of cramping in that region.

[00:22:13] And so then I went through the flush and afterwards I felt fantastic. I haven't felt like that in a long time. Cause it's been awhile, but that was probably one of the best I've felt in years and years. That was right after I had a massive mold exposure too. So once I recovered from the mold and then I did the flush just felt like everything was just free-flowing in my body.

[00:22:35] Spencer Feldman: Good for you. Good for you. So we want to sell them, tell your audience, you know, what the process was for that liver flush. 

[00:22:42] Bryan Carroll: I don't remember everything. I know I did the apple cider for like seven days lots of apple cider. And then if I remember right, it was some kind of fats first thing in the morning, and I believe that was every day.

[00:22:55] And then on that last day, then you drink, what was it like olive oil with Epson salts. And then then a heat pack, right. Where the gallbladder is. And then that's when the stuff really started happening. 

[00:23:11] Spencer Feldman: Right. So typically it's like a half a cup of Oliver. How are you going to, you're going to try to soften the stones a little bit ahead of time with ortho phosphoric acid or malic acid or vinegar, and then half a cup of olive oil and to stimulate the gallbladder and then absent salts to dilate the sphincter of Ojai, which is the sphincter that controls the opening closing of the gallbladder.

[00:23:32] And then you release the stones. Now there's, it can be a great experience, but not always. And, you know liver gallbladder cramping, when you a gallstone attack is from what I understand the most painful experience on the. So not so, you know, it seems like you got pretty close to having one get stuck, so, you know, careful with that.

[00:23:48] So a lot that came out that's for sure. Yeah. So there's a couple of issues with it. Number one, it's not the most enjoyable experience. And number two, in some cases it's dangerous, right. If the stones aren't completely dissolved, but another one is a lot of it comes out. It just coagulate a bits of olive oil.

[00:24:03] And so you will get stones out, but you'll also get coagulate bits of olive oil out and someone might think to themselves, I have to keep doing this until the stones are out and they'll just keep doing it over and over and over again. Whereas the stones are already out and those little green things are our Cardinal artifact.

[00:24:18] And what they end up doing is just flushing out all their bile. And as they dump all their bile over and over again, their liver gets really dry. And what that creates is more gallstones. And so people can get addicted to the sacred that they keep doing it. So this is another kind of detox trap. This is where you know, the, the detox actually causes the problem it's looking to receive.

[00:24:36] Another example would be like zeolite or Corolla, chlorella, chlorella to detox, metals, zeolites, mind out of the earth. And if it wasn't Washington acid by the manufacturer, then it's going to be full of toxic metals. Then when a person takes it orally, their stomach acid releases those metals and then they feel terrible and they do a test and they see all these metals come out and the practitioner goes, oh, you're terrible feeling is a detox cleanse.

[00:25:00] And look, how much is coming out of, you know, No, that wasn't what was coming out of you. That's what you put in you. And most, and half of that is probably not coming out of you. It's from what you're putting in. And the fact that you feel terrible is not a good thing. So, you know you have to be mindful that a good detox rarely will make you feel bad.

[00:25:20] You know, it should be, you know, you shouldn't go through that cramping experience. You shouldn't feel sick, you should feel good, pretty much right off the. Some people are so toxic that ESE talks to them. They're still gonna feel a little funky, but by and large detox reactions are just poorly done detox.

[00:25:37] There's a poorly designed. So, you know, all right. In the same way that we wanted to, we came up with alternatives for the chemical detox is that plaques and the metal detox with a product we call Medicard cardium. We want him to come up with something for the liver gallbladder and so many made a product called glide admins.

[00:25:53] And what we did is we took all the herbs. We could find that would dissolve goal kidney stones and put them in this pository. Now you can take it orally of those herbs. You can take orally The reason why we make us depository in this case is location. So right inside the rectum the blood vessels and there's a lot of blood vessels there.

[00:26:12] Hence this is what create hemorrhoids and that represents almost a third of the blood supply going to the liver. So you have a direct shot into the liver with a suppository. So when you're trying to clean out the liver, whether it's liver, gallbladder, flash, or a phase one phase two chemical detox, suppositories are fantastic.

[00:26:29] And I'll give you a story there. We had I got cold from a woman who was, I guess she was in her seventies and she called to tell me to thank me because her, her headaches were gone. She took vitamins of the headaches were gone and I said, oh, that's great. Ma'am, I'm happy to hear here that she goes, don't know really I'm thank you so much.

[00:26:46] I'm like, well, that sounds like it was a bad headache you had, she goes for 55 years. This woman had had a headache for 55 years. She must've gotten a gallstone stuck in her at eight. And if you don't Chinese medicine, you know that the gallbladder can cause problems with the shoulder, like frozen shoulder stop and, and headaches.

[00:27:05] So, you know, I mean, it would have been great if she had been able to get rid of that at when the problem happened, but at least she gets to spend the last few years of her life. Pain-free so moral of the story is it's never too late. Right. Another kind of calcification would be kidney stones, right?

[00:27:20] So as we get older calcium between. Leaves the bones and starts accumulating in the soft tissue. And part of this is, you know, lack of vitamin K and you know lack of exercise and, you know, sun exposure you know, calcium does this everywhere, arteries, breast, prostate joints, and kidneys. Right.

[00:27:37] So we definitely turned to stone as we age. So the question is, is there a way to resolve. Based crystals and yes, you can enter the same EDTA we talked about for metals while calcium is a metal. And, you know, you don't think of it as a metal because you know, it's not gray and flexible, but it's chemically, you know, on the table of elements, it's in the metal table.

[00:27:56] So yes, you know, you can use a key later and if you use the right one one that doesn't already have calcium. You can pull calcium out of the tissue. Most key leaders out in the marketplace are using key later Ikea key leaders that already have calcium on them because it's cheaper. And that means they cannot reduce.

[00:28:14] They can't remove calcium. They can only remove other metals. So if you use them what we do is we have a magnesium based key later. So not only can we work with the toxic metals, but we can also support the body in the proper location of calcium as. So you know, now imagine you inherited an old house, right?

[00:28:36] And you go look at it and there's an inch of dust on the floor. You know, you can go in with a broom. But before you start sweeping, you really want to, he want to open the door and the window because because what you want to do is you want to sweep it out the door. If you start sweeping up how with all the doors and windows closed.

[00:28:53] Yes. You're going to get a lot of dust up, but you're going to, it's going to be. And so that's the w that's what phase three is phase three is going in and opening the doors and the window so that when you start pulling junk out, it's a clear shot out the body. You know, you see people that have stuff toxins coming out of the skin than lungs they're their systems are getting.

[00:29:12] They're getting overrun. They, they they're they're detox pathways. Their phase three is crashed on there looking for any way out. And so you see people, you know, someone's got terribly bad breath or skin stuff going on or whatever this is toxin saying, Hey, I can't make it out. The normal paths is there another way out?

[00:29:28] Can I get out the lungs? Can I get out there? So, you know, that would be like another kind of detox trap is starting a detox while someone's full of gallstones and goal and bile sludge and kidney stones. They'll stimulate phase one and phase two, but they'll leave. They don't know about phase three and then they just get completely overwhelmed with slush and slop, just bopping around their bodies.

[00:29:51] Does that mean that don't make sense? 

[00:29:54] Bryan Carroll: Yeah, I'm curious for like a teenagers cause you see a lot of skin issues. How much of that is a phase three issue versus hormonal issue or is that it 

[00:30:03] Spencer Feldman: could be phase one phase two phase three. It could also be issues with the genetics and B12 can be 12 issues can cause acne, you know, bad gut for sure.

[00:30:12] A microbiome that's out of whack and we can talk about that in another talk. We'll completely cause that so yeah Absolutely. You know, I wish I knew about this when I was going through acne as a kid, rather than being given you know, Accutane, which is you know, a black box warning drug.

[00:30:29] Yeah, it's a real mess. Some people get their lives ruined by that cause it causes brain damage and all sorts of other nasty things. So there's another talk. So on the, on the topic of crystals there is another kind of crystal that actually we're getting a lot of, and those are called oxalates.

[00:30:44] Are you familiar with those at all? A little bit. Yeah. Right. So oxalates are things that plants make for storing minerals and structural growth and protection. And normally we don't eat food with too many oxalates. Well, that's not true. All right. So let me tell you how this, how this happened.

[00:31:01] So we're in the great depression, right? The 1920s, and there's a lot of families that can't afford good food and their kids are starving. And so they say, you know, somebody comes up with a great idea of promoting spinach to be eaten by kids because it's an incredibly nourishing plant. And up until then people weren't really eating it.

[00:31:19] And so they ran a PR campaign and that was Popeye the sailor. You know, strong to the finish. Cause I eat my spinach Popeye, the sailor man, and he saves olive oils, girlfriend, and I was able to beat up Brutus as big guy. Cause it spinach. Right? So all these kids are eating spinach. So that was like the first health fad, you know, food, but spinach is loaded with oxalates while there's a lot of other foods that are fad foods loaded with oxalates, you know, like chia seeds, soy, which has other problems, almonds.

[00:31:48] And so when we eat all these oxalates, we ended up making oxalate crystals that are body and they can be anywhere from giant things are cause kidney stones to sharp, little spikes, again, get inside the joints and cause pain. So you know, this is a fifth kind of detox trap, which is eating foods you think are healthy.

[00:32:06] You know, and there are the latest fad and it turns out, no, they're not healthy. Like now you can eat spinach. The they've learned how to do that in India. You know, they mix, they cook the spinach with dairy and the calcium from the dairy bonds to the oxalate, making calcium oxalate, which has not absorbable.

[00:32:22] But you know, that's, you know, eat fad foods at your, you know, there there's a risk associated with it. You know, there's a wisdom to crowdsourcing, you know, hundreds of, you know, 10,000 years of cooking across the planet. People figured out what works. And when you do a diet, that's a fad diet that we have no experience with.

[00:32:39] You know, maybe it will be the next best thing, but odds are, it's going to be imbalanced. So let's get back to the oxalates. There's an inexpensive way to get rid of those. That's absent salt baths, and that's because sulfates will displace the oxalates and magnesium makes the sleigh 200 times more Cybil so you can pee it out.

[00:32:58] So actual salt baths are one way to do that. And you know, that's why you, people used to go to all those spas around the. You know, because the healing spas of old they were full of things that were you know, full of sulfates and stuff like that to help crystallize them. Now there's another way to do this, actually.

[00:33:16] Have you ever heard of grounding? Yeah. Okay. Do you know. 

[00:33:21] Bryan Carroll: I mean, I'm out in nature all the time and I don't have shoes, so 

[00:33:24] Spencer Feldman: that helps. Okay. So grounding is when you put your body, your skin in contact either directly or through a wire conductively to the earth. So what happens is so the sun is putting out electrons in the, in the solar wind.

[00:33:38] It hits the planet's atmosphere. It comes down to the earth via lightning. The earth is negatively charged. We put our feet on it and we get a negative. And we evolved with the with an infinite supply of as many electrons as we wanted. We did not evolve with a continual source of food, which is why we put fat on.

[00:33:56] So we have the ability to store fat and Karl the calories we don't, unless you're a Tai Chi master, you don't have the ability to store electrons. So what happens when the electrons leave, start leaving the body. So I'll explain it to you in the. I going to explain it to you in terms of like a car battery.

[00:34:14] So imagine you, you, a family buys an RV and they use it over the summer and then the winter they say, all right, we're not going to use it. And they store it. They come back that spring, the battery's dead. They try to put the battery on a charger. It won't take a charge. They bring it in to the battery place.

[00:34:29] And they're like, oh yeah, you're a first time RV owner. Okay. Your battery is dead and not recoverable. It's full of crystals as the voltage dropped crystals formed. And now it cannot take a charge. You're going to need a new battery by. Say they said, so Nick, so next time just disconnect it before you before you know, in the fall.

[00:34:46] So the next year they disconnect the battery and then they plug it back into the battery, one chart. What start again and come back to the dealer. It's a, Hey, you told us that if we disconnected it, that will be enough. He goes, yeah, but it'll take a charge now. So they recharge the battery and now they go.

[00:35:01] But that battery, because it died once, has lost some of its capacity and now will last. And so they talked to their next door neighbor. Who's had an RV for years and he goes, yeah, what the, what the dealer didn't tell you was disconnected and put it on a trickle charger. So it never goes down in charge.

[00:35:17] And now your battery will last. Wow. Okay. Grounding is like a trickle charger. It's a very low level of electricity. And if your batteries are good to start with, if you're, if you're always walking around barefoot, that's all you need. But a trickle charger won't save a dead battery. So because we walk around on rubber soled shoes and because we are.

[00:35:39] Send that a close, constantly putting electrons off of us because the air no longer has electrons because it's being used up to get rid of pollution because our water has no electrons because it's been removed by flocculant agents because the food has no electrons because we cook it out of it. We have, you know, unless you, and that's why you feel so good walking in the forest or getting by a waterfall or going for a swim, you're getting.

[00:35:59] So grounding works, but it's not going to a trickle charger, which is our grounding is won't work in the same way that a trickle charger won't work to recover a dead battery. So grounding works. If you've always done grounding, if you haven't, you've got to recharge the battery. Okay. So what do we do?

[00:36:16] Human bodies are full of all these crystals now that not only causes pain and crystallization. They also decrease and they also make us more susceptible to 5g because now every crystal in the body is a little radio receiver, and now you're absorbing all the 5g from everywhere. So what do we do to get rid of these crystals?

[00:36:33] Okay. Grounding is not enough because the battery, the batteries are already discharged. That's alright. And charging it. Won't. Because the batteries are they're dead. Right. But we can't just buy another battery. You have 30, you know, 30 trillion, 3 trillion cells in the body, something like that. And if the batteries are dead, you can't just replace them all.

[00:36:54] So we, we have to repair the batteries. It turns out there is a way to do it and you need to use you need to pulse high voltage through the batteries. And if you have a really expensive military battery, you know, that's what the military does. They'll pulse their batteries to recover. It's just your local RV dealer won't do that because they don't know about it or don't have the equipment.

[00:37:13] And so if you are full of crystals, what you need to do is first pulse, the needs to pulse, high voltage, low amperage, negative electricity through the body that will cause a crystals resonate. So what happens with crystals is if you squeeze them, they give off an electrical signal. And if you put an electrical signal into them, they vibrate.

[00:37:29] That's how quartz watches work. That's how those little click lighters work. So if you run an electrical. Into the, into the crystals, you'll vibrate them and you vibrate them, but if they shatter and if you can get them below six or seven nanometers, then what happens is you compete them out. That's the magic point at which crystals can be peed out.

[00:37:48] So we have a machine that will pulse negative voltage into the body. Hopefully, you know, I can't say that I can't make medical claims, but the, you know we know the crystals can be dissolved, can be broken. And then you can put it on another setting, which is like your trickle charger, just to or sorry, your, so basically it has three settings, right?

[00:38:08] One is the pulse setting to blow up the crystals. The second is the recharge to recharge the cells. And the third is trickle and charging and it took me two years to get to the point where I was on trickle. That's how long it took me to get all the crystals out and then to charge up the body to get to the point where I could take a charge.

[00:38:26] Right? If you have a battery full of crystals, it won't even take. First two weeks, I noticed, you know, my, my peripheral neuropathy was gone and we had a couple of, you know, within a week or two, that was nice. My feet got warm for the first time in my life. I didn't have to go to sleep with wool socks on.

[00:38:42] Another thing about electricity is parasites really don't like electricity very much. I think it's because it's how they determine whether they're in a compost pile, a corpse or a living being most bugs don't want to be in living beings. They want to be in compost. But because people have such low voltage, the bugs think that they're dead.

[00:38:59] Cause that's how they determine life from death is dead tissue and compost piles have no electricity in them and living tissue does. So when you lower the voltage, you tell all these bugs, you know, have at it. And when you raise the voltage, they dismiss. So I have a deal with all the nasty bugs on my body.

[00:39:16] You can have me when I'm dead, you know, until then leave me alone. And, but the corollary of that is I can't appear dead to them. So I raise up the charge. I don't see, you know, now look like a fully functioning, living, human being. They either become dormant to go to sleep. And I'll give you an example, a couple examples.

[00:39:31] We've had a couple of people who will get I've had buckets of buckets, cups of worms come out of them alive. And you know, you really want them, you want them coming out alive because if you. Parasite. And then not, the bite has got to digest this thing in your liver and it's going to spill out and all the toxins that were inside the parasite.

[00:39:49] And if you use some kind of herbs to try to kill the parasite and don't manage to kill it, just piss it off, it can dig deeper and farther into the body so much better to get these things, to leave of their own volition. If you don't like looking at it, it's, don't, don't look in the bathroom for the first two weeks you use it.

[00:40:06] We had, here's an interesting one. We had one. Man, I guess in his twenties he had received a vaccine and then had diarrhea for the next 15, 20 years. And we gave him what his mom put the, the charger over the belly. And within a couple of days, that was it. He's had normal stools now. And I don't understand how that works other than perhaps.

[00:40:30] It's the electricity convinced the bad bacteria in the gut, not to be there or to become dormant. And the good bacteria took over. I don't really understand how that happened. That's my working thesis. But so you can definitely detox a body with electricity if you know how to do it. If you see the urine turning really cloudy after you use something like this, just back off, cause you're probably dumping more crystals than your kidneys would appreciate.

[00:40:52] But those are pretty much the main ways I like to detox bodies. So sweating is really. You know, so on, this is another great way to do it. And then, you know you could also get into the whole concept of, you know, emotional detox. Like what do we do with toxic emotions? How do we handle those? 

[00:41:07] Bryan Carroll: So what's this a charger?

[00:41:09] It sounds like it's a lot more than just a grounding 

[00:41:11] Spencer Feldman: mat. Oh yeah, no, it's a, it's a small box that will pump negative electrons out of the earth and put them into the and supply under the body. So, you know, it's, it's what grounding hopes to be. Right? Grounding is. In theory for people that have always been grounded.

[00:41:28] But if you ground somebody who isn't as is ill, it will give a minor effect. So for some people, a decent effect, but it's nothing compared to it's orders of magnitude stronger when you actually actively pump it out of the earth and put it into the body to the point where your hair is starting to stand up, you know?

[00:41:45] And then you're starting to recharge the album in and the fluids of the body and the tissues and all of these things. So, yeah, it's, it's a device we make. 

[00:41:54] Bryan Carroll: Interesting. So utilizing all these different methods and devices, how often do you have to do them? Like you mentioned that IVQ location if you do it 20 times and it can reduce chances of cancer, et cetera, is that 20 times in a short mountain?

[00:42:08] The short period of time, or is it 20 times over a lifetime? 

[00:42:11] Spencer Feldman: It doesn't really seem it, I don't think it matters that much. Although obviously you don't want to do it over 20 years because then you wouldn't have the first 10 years, you've only got 10 of them in you. So the clearing of the metals and, and the so right for the average person, I would do a metal chemical and liver.

[00:42:30] Detox once a year, like when you change the oil on your car, right. You, you know, some people twice a year, you know if somebody works in an industry where they're exposed to a lot of metals, like they're welding, or a lot of chemicals like hairdresser, or, you know, a dry cleaner, or, you know, then they could definitely do more of the chemical detox once in a blue moon, I'll get somebody who has to be on them their whole life, because it's what, you know, it's what keeps.

[00:42:59] I have a few clients who, you know, they tell me that it's, without these they're there, they're not gonna, they don't think that they're going to survive. And I would love to be able to get them to the point where they don't need them. And but there are, there are vast, there are, they're an incredible minority, vast majority of people, one to two times a year, and you know, that'll, that'll go, that'll do one.

[00:43:21] Leila Archer. I was on it for two hours a day in the beginning, and now I'm on it five minutes every other day. He says as the crystals leave the body and you're able to hold a charge better, you don't need it so much of it, you know, sort of like, imagine your cell phone battery, like it's old enough you and it's, you know, it's down to zero, you put it on a full charge and you get five minutes out of it and then you have to put it on another full time.

[00:43:44] Right. Okay. So that's what the body's like in the beginning, you're going to give it a full charge, but it can't hold. But if you keep doing it eventually, it's like, okay, I can start holding the char and then you could go long or longer without it. 

[00:43:57] Bryan Carroll: Interesting. So what is your like daily routine with all this stuff look 

[00:44:01] Spencer Feldman: like?

[00:44:02] So you know, the things I do daily peace because the water I have is you know Outdoors cause I'm off grid, the water's freezing cold. So I make sure I end every shower with freezing cold water because you know, the epigenetic aspects of cryotherapy and the testosterone boost and all of that I do the electron charger, you know, maybe, you know, once a day just for fun, you know, I don't, I don't, I'm not at the point now where if I don't do it everyday, I don't feel well.

[00:44:27] I, you know, I'm craving it. I just do it just cause it all is just sit down by the fireplace and put my. And then I do supplements based on my genetics. So for instance, for me, you know, the methyl issues and the B12 cyclic issues, I'll do B12 and injections and glutamate, scavengers, and a Sammy. And that's a, that's a personal thing.

[00:44:45] You have to know your genetics and know what things your body, you know, would do well with as different for different people on a more weekly thing. I breathe in hydrogen gas or Brown's gas. I do PMF I'll do injections and magnesium once a week. If I'm. Sauna, you know, workout, Epsom, salt, baths, things like that.

[00:45:05] Bryan Carroll: Yeah. This was a really good rundown of, you know, detoxing and the different pathways in the system. I definitely learned a lot in now. I'm going to go over and look at some of the products that you mentioned, cause I'm very curious, I'm curious about them and I, I kind of want to give them a try. If, is there a final things you want to make sure that you tell everybody about before we wrap this.

[00:45:27] Spencer Feldman: For detox, you know, have it in a balanced and in a balanced way, right? I mean to say, oh, I don't need to do any detox. And then, you know, not to age gracefully at the end up with, you know, Parkinson's or Alzheimer's or in pain, that's no way to live a life and to be constantly worried, you know, that's no way to live either.

[00:45:51] So, you know, Treated just like you treat, if you treat it as well as you treat your car, you know, you don't, you know, it's like, do you have to change your cars oil? No, you don't have to change it every 5,000 miles, but don't expect a car to last as long and run as well. The seals are all gonna fail and it's gonna be a mess.

[00:46:11] Right. So just treat it as good as your car once a year, just, you know, flush out the stones, clean out some metals, clean out some chemicals. If you find that you do a particular kind of detox and it makes you feel really. Okay, maybe you do that one a little more frequently. That's your body saying, Hey, I could really, I could use that.

[00:46:29] You know, the, is, there are some people that don't know, you know, some people are really sensitive and so they really know when they need to detox and some people aren't and the people that aren't just because you don't feel it, that, you know, don't look a gift horse in the mouth. That means you have great genetics.

[00:46:44] It means you're really strong. It means your check engine light just isn't coming on. Right. It doesn't mean you don't need to change the. And if the people who don't feel it clear detox themselves, those guys, you know, you know, make it a 90, a hundred in excellent health. 

[00:47:01] Bryan Carroll: Hm. Is there a season of the year that would be the most beneficial for detoxing?

[00:47:07] Spencer Feldman: You could say that the, the time to do that would be early spring when theoretically you've gone through the winter and you're kind of in a quasi fasting. Already, or you're already starting to go into catabolism and break things down before all the food becomes available. But realistically, it's more important that you do it at a time that works for your lifestyle.

[00:47:27] You know, so I would say as a general rule detox on on over the weekend, right? So you don't end up having until, you know how you're gonna react to it. That way you don't have any issues, you know and I don't like to detox at night because then you're not getting any exercise. You're not moving, you're not getting drinking any water.

[00:47:43] You can't feel anything. So, you know, fresh time you do a detox like Saturday morning, have the whole day in front of you to move around and drink water and see how you feel. And then once you get the hang of it and you know how your body's going to react, then just, you know, sure. Whatever works. 

[00:48:00] Bryan Carroll: Yeah.

[00:48:00] When I did the gallbladder flush years ago, I timed it for a Saturday morning. That way, add Saturday and Sunday to bounce back. If things didn't go the way that I was hoping they would go. So yeah. Definitely a plan that ahead of time. Well, Spencer, I think this is absolutely fascinating and people can, can they get more of this type of information at your website, remedy link.com or is this more people needed to chase you over the different podcasts that 

[00:48:28] Spencer Feldman: you do?

[00:48:28] So the website is a remedy link.com and we have a huge video library there that talks about all sorts of things. And if you want kind of a more up-to-date stuff up and doing then yeah. Podcasts would be at cause you know, those videos were made, although I love them and I think they're great. You know, they were made if a few years ago and you know, there's things you keep learning.

[00:48:49] So podcasts are another great way to go like this one. 

[00:48:55] Bryan Carroll: Perfect. Well, thank you Spencer, for coming onto the show. I appreciate it. And for everybody looking more into this head on over to remedy link.com and you can see more of those resources and reach out to Spencer. So thank you, Spencer. Thanks for having.

[00:49:10] I hope we didn't get too much into the science of how your body detoxes and that you are able to retain some of that information and lucky for you. If you want to go back and listen to this episode again, you totally can because it is available at all times. And like I said, if you can sit down with a pen and paper and write down notes, you'll be able to retain a lot of that information, much easier.

[00:49:33] So, if you want to check out some of his products, head on over to remedy, link.com and see all the different options that they have over there. All right. In the next episode, I have Dr. Michael Platt on the show. Let's go learn who he is and what we'll be talking about. I am here with Dr. Michael Platt. Hey, Dr.

[00:49:48] Michael, what is one unique thing about you that most people don't know? 

[00:49:54] Dr. Michael Platt: I, I think most people don't realize that that medicine, to me, it's a passion and, and getting people well is very rewarding. And unfortunately doctors don't see it, but yeah, but I love medicine. And so I don't know if people know, I don't know if they need to know that about me, but I do.

[00:50:16] Bryan Carroll: And what will we be learning about in our interview today? 

[00:50:20] Dr. Michael Platt: Well, they'll be learning about adrenaline and how it effects the body and how important it is when it comes to a person's health. And, and again, It all comes down to treating the cause of illness. And adrenaline is a big cause of illness, which is interesting.

[00:50:38] You know, you've, you've heard of functional medicine doctors who treat the cause of problems, but they have no knowledge of adrenaline. Which is a big thing that they're missing. I tried introducing my books to functional medicine schools and they had no interest. So but that anyway, but anyway 

[00:50:56] Bryan Carroll: yeah, so.

[00:50:58] In what are your favorite foods or nutrients that you think everyone should get more of in their diet? 

[00:51:03] Dr. Michael Platt: Well, I, I, again, I would have to say vegetables, coconut oil and MCT oil. You cannot go wrong with that. And it it's so heavy. It's probably very healthy in terms of keeping adrenaline down. And so those are my favorite.

[00:51:19] Bryan Carroll: In what are your top three health tips for anyone who wants to improve their overall wellness? 

[00:51:24] Dr. Michael Platt: I almost want to say stay away from docket, but people need to become proactive about their health. They can't rely on a medical system that has no interest in there being. And so it's not just a matter of going to a doctor, listening to what he has to say.

[00:51:37] They, they really, if they have a problem, they should actually, you know, investigate the problem and, and see what could be done to treat the cause of the problem rather than take band-aids for it. I know it's tough. It's not easy. I don't want to sound like well my books talk a lot about treating the cause of.

[00:51:58] And in fact, I got in a lot of trouble with the miracle book because doctors felt the ideas were so dangerous. I shouldn't be practicing medicine, but all the book talked about was treating the cause of illness and and getting people off drugs and that, and, you know, medical boards are funded by drug companies.

[00:52:17] You know, they took issue with the book anyway. 

[00:52:20] Bryan Carroll: But anyway, yeah, people don't see the problem with that. Then there's a lot of conflicts of interest. And I would say too, if you're a physician only spends six minutes with you, they're not going to get a full history about your own health and the things that you're going to need.

[00:52:35] So find a physician that spends a lot more time, like we're in, since you spend about two hours. Well, 

[00:52:41] Dr. Michael Platt: I had the luxury of doing that because, you know, I, I, I didn't do insurance. So anyway, so I had very limited number of people per day. 

[00:52:51] Bryan Carroll: Hormones and hormone regulation is always an interesting topic. And especially since we're talking about adrenaline, I was very fascinated by some of the information that he shared and he sent over some products for me to test out.

[00:53:03] So between now and when that episode comes out, I will test them out and let you know, at the end of that episode, how I feel after using some of those products. So until then keep climbing to the peak of your health.