Dr. David Rabin teaches us how to integrate western approaches with eastern medicine for mental health

138- Mental Health, Plant Medicine, Touch Therapy and More with Dr. David Rabin

By Bryan Carroll CFMP, NTP, FAFS

December 10, 2020

With depression, anxiety, and other mental health conditions steadily on the rise, 1 out of 4 people are fighting an internal battle we can't see. As more and more people go to therapy to work on their mental health, we are running into problems of not enough psychiatrists to support everyone.

In my local town, it can take 6 months before you can get into a therapist, and that is just to get started with therapy. The length of therapy that it takes to make lasting changes can take months, or even years.

If therapy doesn't work, then the next steps typically are medications, such as SSRI's. However, with new research into mental health, we are starting to see more alternative methods, like psychedelics, that can drastically improve mental health. Which is an area of research that Dr. David Rabin is doing a lot of work.

What To Expect From This Episode

  • What are the conventional mental health treatments, and why aren't they successful
  • What happens to your emotions and feelings when you are on an SSRI
  • How psychedelics are changing the game for mental health
  • Ways to use Apollo Neuro to improve nervous system stimulation


  • [0:00] Welcome to the Summit For Wellness Podcast
  • [2:45] What made Dr. David Rabin so interested in psychiatry
  • [7:00] Does every single person have a stress breakpoint
  • [10:30] Will we improve our resilience to stress through life experiences
  • [14:15] You need to figure out the triggers for stress and address the triggers first
  • [16:30] What is the western approach to mental health conditions
  • [22:00] We should be combining plant therapy or psychedelic-type options with psychotherapy before utilizing medications
  • [23:30] People develop an emotional numbness when on these SSRI medications
  • [25:15] Are serotonin receptor sites similar to insulin that the more exposed it is to serotonin, the more resistance is developed from the cells
  • [26:45] What herbs work really well to help people with depression and anxiety
  • [30:30] Maintaining a healthy circadian rhythm is so important for mental health
  • [31:45] What are the legality issues around using psychedelics for mental health
  • [37:00] The psilocybin studies were using full doses, not micro-doses
  • [38:15] What is actually happening within the brain when someone is on a psychedelic experience that can reduce depression and anxiety
  • [43:45] When you have so many neurotransmitters flooding your system and you are at a high point, when you come off of it, does it dip you into a "low"
  • [46:15] What is the Apollo Neuro and what is its purpose
  • [52:15] Can you combine the "recovery mode" of the Apollo with other recovery devices such as a Hypervolt
  • [53:45] Are you able to train the nervous system in the wrong way if you use the wrong stimulus for the goal you want to achieve
  • [54:45] What are the guidelines to change the intensity levels of the Apollo

Resources From This Episode

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Transcript For Episode (Transcripts aren't even close to 100% Accurate)

Learn More About Dr. David Rabin

Learn from Dr. David Rabin about upcoming studies to improve mental health results

Learn from Dr. David Rabin about upcoming studies to improve mental health results

About the author

Bryan Carroll CFMP, NTP, FAFS

Bryan Carroll is a certified Functional Medicine Practitioner and Movement Therapist who helps the outdoors community to reduce injuries and improve their health so they can get back to exploring nature. His big health crisis from mold exposure taught him the importance of finding the root causes to illnesses so you can take back control of your life. He is also the host of the Summit For Wellness Podcast.

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